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MINUTES OF THE
YORBA LINDA WATER DISTRICT
BOARD OF DIRECTORS SPECIAL MEETING
Tuesday, March 26, 2024, 8:30 a.m.
1717 E Miraloma Ave, Placentia CA 92870
PARTICIPATION INSTRUCTIONS
Were included on the agenda.
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 8:30 a.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Director Hawkins led the pledge.
ROLL CALL
DIRECTORS PRESENT
Trudi DesRoches, President
Tom Lindsey, Vice President
Brett R. Barbre
Director Hawkins
Gene Hernandez
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STAFF PRESENT
Mark Toy, General Manager
Lori Thompson, Human Resources and Risk Manager
Rosanne Weston, Engineering Manager
Annie Alexander, Board Secretary
Freddie Ojeda, Operations Superintendent
Sophia Phoung, Accounting Supervisor
AB 2449 TELECONFERENCE REQUESTS (None)
PUBLIC COMMENTS (None)
DISCUSSION ITEMS
7.1. Interviews for Legal Counsel Services
Discussion touched on the sample interview questions, the format of the
interviews, the date for consideration of contract award, and the financial
analysis and services comparison prepared by staff.
The Board then began their first interview with Atkinson, Andelson, Loya, Ruud
& Romo (AALRR). David Boyer, Partner, introduced himself and members of
the firm's team including Suparna Jain, Partner; Kevin Dale, Partner; Jeff
Hoskinson, Partner; and Eddy Beltran, Of Counsel. Mr. Boyer provided historical
background on the firm and the practice's services and accomplishments.
Mr. Boyer and his team then responded to questions Board regarding the
provision of AB1 234/AB 1825 training, the quoted rates for services, availability
to attend Board meetings, and overall philosophy when providing legal
advice. Questions also touched on the firm's experience addressing PFAS,
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identifying regulations and potential issues that could impact the District,
services that the firm may outsource, and handling potential conflicts of
interest. Mr. Boyer also clarified the circumstances involving Kidman Gagen
Law's reference to utilizing AALRR for labor and employment legal services
and provided an overview of his professional background. He then reviewed
the firm's process for taking on new clients and handling encroachment
issues. Mr. Hoskinson also commented on the firm's handling of encroachment
issues. Mr. Beltran and Mr. Dale shared their professional experience and Mr.
Boyer offered his closing remarks and thanked the Board for the opportunity
to participate in the interview process.
The meeting was recessed at 9:55 a.m. and reconvened at 10:00 a.m.
The Board proceeded with interviewing Aleshire & Wynder. Fred Galante,
Equity Partner, introduced himself and members of the firm's team including
Martin Koczanowicz, Partner, and Christine Carson, Partner. Ms. Carson and
Koczanowicz then provided an overview of their professional background. Mr.
Galante then reviewed the firm's services and proposed rates and Ms. Carson
highlighted some of the firm's accomplishments and litigation successes. Mr.
Galante and his team then responded to questions regarding Proposition 218
litigation, the proposed fees for services, previous experience with politicaâ–ºly
charged situations, experience in labor and employment law, and availability
to attend Board meetings. Questions also touched on the firm's specialties,
presence in Sacramento and Washington DC, circumstances in which the firm
might consider engaging special counsel, and the provision of
AB1234/AB1825 training. Mr. Galante then reviewed the firm's process for
taking on new clients and responded to additional questions regarding the
appropriateness of meeting with individual Directors and providing legal
advice that may not be well received. He then offered his closing comments
and expressed his appreciation for the opportunity to interview.
The meeting was recessed at 10:49 a.m. and reconvened at 10:56 a.m.
The Board proceeded with interviewing Kidman Gagen Law. Andrew Gagen,
Partner, introduced members of the firm's team including Art Kidman, Partner;
Kari Vozenilek, Partner; Steven Guess, Senior Associate; and Patricia Parker,
Senior Associate. Mr. Gagen then summarized his professional background
and professional experience working with the District and commented on the
firm's rates. Mr. Gagen responded to questions regarding the firm's services,
presence in Sacramento in Washington DC, the provision of AB1234/AB1825
training, and services the firm may choose to outsource. Questions also
touched on difficult situations previously handled by the firm, issues the District
may be facing, methods utilized to cultivate relationships with the Board and
management, and the appropriateness of General Counsel meeting with
individual Directors. Ms. Vozenilek provided an overview of her professional
experience and responded to questions regarding tribal water rights.
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Mr. Kidman commented on his long-term experience working with the District
and a previous challenging situation wherein he would have advised the
matter be referred to outside counsel. Mr. Guess and Ms. Parker provided an
overview of their professional background. Mr. Gagen then offered
clarification regarding Kidman Gagen Law's proposal indicating the utilization
of AALRR for labor and employment legal services. One Director questioned
the clarity of that statement. Mr. Gagen then provided his closing comments
and expressed the firm's desire to continue its work for the District.
The meeting was recessed at 1 1:35 a.m. and reconvened at 1 1:55 a.m.
The Board proceeded with interviewing Richards Watson Gershon. Nick
Ghirelli, Shareholder, introduced a member of the firm's team, Kyle Brochard,
Shareholder, and provided an overview of the other team members'
specialties who were not physically present. Mr. Ghirelli then summarized the
team's professional background and projects of note. He also reviewed the
firm's services and responded to questions regarding their process for taking
on new clients and providing legal advice that may not be well received.
Questions also touched on adjudicated groundwater basins, the
appropriateness of meeting with individual Directors, handling of
encroachment issues, and issues the District may be facing. Additional topics
included legal services provided in-house, presence in Sacramento in
Washington DC, provision of AB 1234/AB 1825 training, and handling of
complaints related to labor issues. Mr. Ghirelli then reviewed the firm's
proposed fees for service and offered his closing remarks.
The Board discussed the current budget for legal services, the financial
analysis comparison prepared by staff, and a potential discrepancy
regarding Kidman Gagen Law's arrangement with AALRR for the provision of
labor and employment services. Staff will obtain clarification from both firms
regarding this matter. Discussion followed regarding the process for
determining which of the four firms the contract was to be awarded which
was scheduled for the regular Board meeting on April 11, 2024.
8. ADJOURNMENT
8.1. The meeting was adjourned at 12:37 p.m.
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Annie Alexander
Board Secretary
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